Emotional Blackmail?

Hello there,

I've just been reading the following article on the NEP's website:

http://is.gd/RovR

In it, John Armstrong-Holmes is quoted as saying:

"If people vote against [the takeover proposal], they don't have the best interests of the club at heart."

Is it really appropriate for our Chairman - and a democratically-elected representative of the fans - to resort to emotional blackmail via the mainstream media? The Trust is stooping to a new low here.

I'm not against this investment proposal, but I just don't know enough about it yet to make an informed decision either way. If the ballot took place today, I would abstain.

But IF (and I stress that it's a very big 'if') I decide to vote against the proposal, it will be precisely because I believe that course of action to be in the best interests of the club. For an elected representative of my Supporters' Trust to suggest otherwise is both undemocratic and highly offensive.

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Martin G

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Also, while I'm on, perhaps someone could clarify another remark made by Mr. Armstrong-Holmes in the same article:

"It is a choice between a bright future for this club, or no future at all, that is the size of the decision."

When he says "no future at all," should we infer that the club will go bust without this investment? If so, isn't that a rather damning indictment of JAH's own time at the helm?

Sorry if I don't sound optimistic about this takeover proposal, but recent months have taught me to be wary of any proclamation coming from JAH or the Trust Board. My heart is telling me that the investment proposal could be the best thing to happen to Notts in many years, but my head says to exercise extreme caution. And, in part, the Trust's recent record is partly to blame for that scepticism.

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Martin G JAH is just stating FACTS that if this takeover gets rejected then we will just keep stuggling season after season till we drop out of the football league.

he's not blackmailing any body you're just posting silly things because you hate the man which i think is abit babyish really, it's time to back the takeover & stop all this bickering so the club can move forward.

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Martin G

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Hi Clifton-Pie,

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you're just posting silly things because you hate the man which i think is abit babyish really, it's time to back the takeover & stop all this bickering so the club can move forward.

First, while I don't agree with the way certain things have been done recently by the Club and Trust, I can state categorically that I don't "hate" JAH, or anyone else involved with either the Club or the Trust.

Second, I think that every Trust member has Notts' best interests at heart - including JAH. But people will have differences of opinion as to what constitutes Notts' best interests. That's how democracy works. As such, I maintain that it is unfair and undemocratic to suggest that anyone who votes against the proposal doesn't have the Club's best interests at heart.

Third, I've not said that I don't back the takeover. I've just said that, at this point in time, I don't have enough information to make an informed choice. Based on what I know at this point in time, I would actually abstain from the ballot, and leave the decision to my fellow Trust members. I may well vote for the proposal, if more information is forthcoming. I'm completely undecided at this point in time.

I genuinely want Notts to be a success, as do you.

Martin.

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quote:
Originally posted by Martin G:
Hi Clifton-Pie,

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you're just posting silly things because you hate the man which i think is abit babyish really, it's time to back the takeover & stop all this bickering so the club can move forward.

First, while I don't agree with the way certain things have been done recently by the Club and Trust, I can state categorically that I don't "hate" JAH, or anyone else involved with either the Club or the Trust.

Second, I think that every Trust member has Notts' best interests at heart - including JAH. But people will have differences of opinion as to what constitutes Notts' best interests. That's how democracy works. As such, I maintain that it is unfair and undemocratic to suggest that anyone who votes against the proposal doesn't have the Club's best interests at heart.

Third, I've not said that I don't back the takeover. I've just said that, at this point in time, I don't have enough information to make an informed choice. Based on what I know at this point in time, I would actually abstain from the ballot, and leave the decision to my fellow Trust members. I may well vote for the proposal, if more information is forthcoming. I'm completely undecided at this point in time.

I genuinely want Notts to be a success, as do you.

Martin.

Martin G, I have been supporting Notts for what will be sixty years at the start of this comming season, during that time we have always struggled for finances even under Dunnett & Pavis. With more financial clout just maybe we would have enjoyed a longer stay in Division One which would have been the Premiership under Pavis & Warnock at the helm.

You may not have a very good opinion of JAH, but he has delivered what he said he would, all beit may not be the same investors as he was first involved with. However John Mountney has been involved at Board Level through the Clubs two most successful periods in our modern History. If he says support the take over then IMO that is the way forward, John is Black & White through & through & would not let Notts County fall into the wrong hands it means too much to him, as it does to all of us that is why we joined the Trust I think.

I am sure in do course all the details will be released, so that you have enough relevant information before you vote.

Every Thing Forward & Trust in The Lord.

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Thank goodness for people like JAH and the other directors who have the interests of Notts at heart.

I never thought this day would come after enduring 45 years of mainly misery.

Just think what could have happened if he had not won that ridiculous motion to out him, I am sure within a couple of years we would have been out of the league.

Driven there by powermad misguided supporters.

Time for the Trust to be wound up.

It has done a great job, we must move on.

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