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Lakes Pie
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After the initial euphoria of the proposed takeover taking place. More and more people are now realising that they need more information before voting in favour of the takeover. If the Takeover is genuine ( To be honest I don't believe anything the Trust says after the recent events) then more information needs to be forthcoming about the takeover. The more I read the more I'm suspicous, if you genuinely have nothing to hide, you must let more information in to the public domain.

Therefore, I propose that the Trust organise a SGM with the potential owners present so Trust members can ask any questions that may quell any concerns regarding the takeover.

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clifton-pie
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where are these more more people wanting more information?

i think you will find more more people want this takeover done yesturday so we can become a normal football club again!!
 
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Lakes Pie
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Obviously you are not reading other posts around the internet or talking to anybody with half a brain.
 
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i'm been reading all the notts foums mate Smile there only odd one that keeps saying they want more information, glenn is keep the questions of what people are asking & they are going answer them in the ballot,

if you want a question answered post it here
http://nottscotrust.org.uk/eve...=970107101#970107101
 
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jurgenpie
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No question for me, they have produced proof of funds, frankly the alternative without this is frightening, gates will drop and not sure if Notts can take another season like last. Fans are now buzzing with the prospect of decent players coming in and a former Premier CE running the club.


Jurgenpie
 
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David Hindley
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Jurgen,

I wish I could share your optimism. There are far too many unanswered questions, which hopefully a public meeting and a comprehensive document mailed out with the ballot papers will go some way to addressing.

Regards,
Dave

PS Does anyone remember Bhatia and Strang? I wish the individuals fronting Munto Finance Limited no disrespect but I can recall many supporters falling over themselves for these people to takeover NCFC on the back of a few promises. And we know what happened then ... I wouldn't want to see the end of any form of supporter representative at Meadow Lane without some very real assurances about the long-term future.
 
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David Hindley
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And hear, hear for James' request for a SGM to discuss the takeover but no doubt this time the membership won't need to collect 100+ signatures as the Trust Board will be instigating this anyhow, given the significance of the issue.

Dave
 
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clifton-pie
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Jurgen,

I wish I could share your optimism. There are far too many unanswered questions, which hopefully a public meeting and a comprehensive document mailed out with the ballot papers will go some way to addressing.

Regards,
Dave

PS Does anyone remember Bhatia and Strang? I wish the individuals fronting Munto Finance Limited no disrespect but I can recall many supporters falling over themselves for these people to takeover NCFC on the back of a few promises. And we know what happened then ... I wouldn't want to see the end of any form of supporter representative at Meadow Lane without some very real assurances about the long-term future.


if you got few question to ask post them in the question topic & stop trying to make trouble.... i'm starting to get sick & tired of you if you got your way we wont had this chance of getting investment.


so stop trying to upset thing & ask your question!!!
 
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Roweyp
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What is wrong with you people ? What questions need answering ? AFter years of poverty and failure we have a bit of good news and you want to try and find a way of turning it into a negative ? Vote for the takeover otherwise you are voting to ensure the end of Notts County FC. As we are slowly dying without it. For me the only way Munto will make any money out of Notts is by us being successful. Why do some of you always try and be negative about everything. If we got into the premier league you would moan that your ticket costs too much.
 
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clifton-pie
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Originally posted by Roweyp:
What is wrong with you people ? What questions need answering ? AFter years of poverty and failure we have a bit of good news and you want to try and find a way of turning it into a negative ? Vote for the takeover otherwise you are voting to ensure the end of Notts County FC. As we are slowly dying without it. For me the only way Munto will make any money out of Notts is by us being successful. Why do some of you always try and be negative about everything. If we got into the premier league you would moan that your ticket costs too much.


thanks you roweyp i cant had said it better myself.
 
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Gareth Marklew
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Roweyp, Clifton-pie

The members of the Trust are being asked to give away the Trust's shareholding, and write off some fairly substantial debts. The Trust have said that they're willing to answer questions asked. Why is it so unreasonable to ask who we're giving it to, what the club gets out of it, and what the implications are for the Trust?

Gareth
 
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clifton-pie
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Roweyp, Clifton-pie

The members of the Trust are being asked to give away the Trust's shareholding. The Trust have said that they're willing to answer questions asked. Why is it so unreasonable to ask who we're giving it to, what the club gets out of it, and what the implications are for the Trust?

Gareth


what have i said?

there is a topic for your question & they will answer them in the ballot what else do you want them to do go around everybody house & tell them everything what going to happen.

i dont see no point in having a meeting to ask the same question.... it will be a waste of your time & theres
 
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Originally posted by David Hindley:

PS Does anyone remember Bhatia and Strang? I wish the individuals fronting Munto Finance Limited no disrespect but I can recall many supporters falling over themselves for these people to takeover NCFC on the back of a few promises. And we know what happened then ...


Good logic that. I once had a red car and it broke down. Therefore all red cars break down.

Anyway, talking of Bhatia and Strang, do you remember saying any of this:

Personally, I was encouraged that Sam McEwan was in agreement with the aims of the Trust and recognised the importance of two-way communication between the club and its fans. This represents a sound foundation on which to hopefully build a positive and constructive relationship.

My own impression of Sam McEwan is that he is a frank-speaking Scotsman, who has an interest in football. During the meeting he was friendly, and willing to discuss a range of issues.
 
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Bridg4d_Pie_
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Originally posted by Roweyp:
What is wrong with you people ? What questions need answering ? AFter years of poverty and failure we have a bit of good news and you want to try and find a way of turning it into a negative ? Vote for the takeover otherwise you are voting to ensure the end of Notts County FC. As we are slowly dying without it. For me the only way Munto will make any money out of Notts is by us being successful. Why do some of you always try and be negative about everything. If we got into the premier league you would moan that your ticket costs too much.


Its not often that I agree with you Roweyp, but I have to say for once you are spot on. This IMO is the only way forward for Notts. If it is good enough for John Mountney, who has been a Club Board member & Vice Chairman during the two most successful periods in the Clubs recent history, its good enough for me.

Every Thing Forward & Trust in The Lord.
 
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Roweyp
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We have got nothing to lose. The club is on it's knees. 1,700 season tickets ? It will go down each year we are in this state. The trust was there to save the club and if they actually want what is best then the takeover must be allowed to happen. The club run by the trust will do no more than league two until it finally goes out of business. I can't see any risk whatsoever in the deal. Do you really think they want to strip the club off its assets ? sorry to disappoint but we don't have any !!The club board and chairman all seem happy for the deal so why on earth would you ?
 
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Roweyp
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Also Gareth and David what exactly is the other option ? If we don't accept this takeover what do you propose instead ? More buckets and a car boot sale ?
 
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David Hindley
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Good logic that. I once had a red car and it broke down. Therefore all red cars break down.


And how many successful takeovers Kevin can you name where the end result hasn't been a club saddled with debt that it cannot afford?

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Anyway, talking of Bhatia and Strang, do you remember saying any of this:

Personally, I was encouraged that Sam McEwan was in agreement with the aims of the Trust and recognised the importance of two-way communication between the club and its fans. This represents a sound foundation on which to hopefully build a positive and constructive relationship.

My own impression of Sam McEwan is that he is a frank-speaking Scotsman, who has an interest in football. During the meeting he was friendly, and willing to discuss a range of issues.


Yes, of course I do. And I stand by my own initial impressions based on that first meeting. I also remember getting slated by some for then being critical and raising doubts about the groups intentions.

I am not against investment, indeed I think most are agreed that the club will struggle to move forward without it. But what I am concerned about is throwing away the Trust's principles of supporter involvement seemingly overnight.

Munto Finance Ltd may be the best thing that has ever happened to NCFC but I struggle to understand why a group that has lauded its community aspirations wishes to erode its links with supporters by having no degree of supporter ownership or supporter involvement.

If you read carefully the group's statement they have also made clear that their aim is to make the club live within its means in a few years time. So we can expect the next few years for the club to be racking up debt - and what happens if the plans are not met or if the group start to look elsewhere on their shopping list?
 
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jurgenpie
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I am not against investment, indeed I think most are agreed that the club will struggle to move forward without it. But what I am concerned about is throwing away the Trust's principles of supporter involvement seemingly overnight.

With the internal fighting within the Trust I think we have already thrown that away, the internal fighting for me has destroyed the Trust principles and I for one will be glad to see the back of it. The way forward now is possibly links through the supprters club.


Jurgenpie
 
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Roweyp
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Gareth and David what exactly is the other option ?
 
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David Hindley
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You have hit the nail on the head. The Club Chairman has stated more than once publically that there is no other option and that effectively the club has no future unless members vote in favour of Munto Finance Limited.

I would have thought the three Supporter Directors on the Board would be doing everything in their power to support the Society's aims of supporter ownership and supporter involvement (have a read of the Society rules on the website) instead of informing the members that the future of our club is for 100% ownership by a 'special purpose acquisition company'.

If there really is no other option then the question must be why? Why have those responsible for managing our football club in a prudent and professional manner allowed this to happen?
 
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